ceiling and creating the special, the select committee. no real evidence that we were able to achieve something that i felt was very important and while i haven't walked away from its issues, not at all, i did reach the conclusion that maybe there's a different approach to getting our country out of the fiscal condition that it is in, and that's called growing the economy. job creation, creates that opportunity for additional tax revenues to be collected and the debts to be reduced. and so at about that time, report from the kauffman foundation in kansas city, the kauffman foundation is devoted to entrepreneurship. that report landed on my desk with specific policy recommendations about what washington, d.c. might do in order to enhance the chances that the united states is and would remain a country of entrepreneurs. and if we do this ideas and begin the process of drafting legislation, at about that time senator wyden introduced himself to me on the senate floor and said i've got an issue that might be of interest to you. and would you c